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Switch Bindings.
« on: January 26, 2009, 10:36:19 AM »
Ok, help me out FrostyRiders....

My wife picked up a used snowboard with switch bindings (it's what she really wanted), however after wearing the boots more she has decided they are too small. So, I have found several pairs of boots, some with bails, some without that will fit her more comfortably. Are there compatibility issues (different sizes) with the switch bindings, bails and boots? The bindings on my wife's board say 'Autolock 65' and look like the bindings I see called 'N type'. I have also come across bails that say the modern ones are more narrow. So, I'm not sure what to make of all this.

So my question is, if I get a new pair of boots that say they fit  N type step-in binding and they don't come with the bails, can I take the bails off the boots my wife has, and put them on these other boots and be set?

...I'm so confused  :P

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 12:27:58 PM »
Thanks for the question pengee.  I have never fancied Switch Bindings.  They rank up there with Device Bindings as just being odd to me.  My recommendation is to ditch the switch and just go with standard strap bindings.  If you want the step-in convenience then go with Flow Bindings.  The conveniences of having a standard setup are numerous -- compatibility, availability, performance, comfort, and reliability are all increased with standard boots and strap bindings (including Flow which I personally use -- see Flow reviews here).
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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 12:33:48 PM »
lol, I am with you Frosty but have had no luck talking my wife out of it.

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 01:28:06 PM »
Looks like you have a problem then, lol.  Gotta give a lady what she wants, I know.  Well, The House carries Switch, so I suggest contacting them to see what they recommend as a dealer.

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 03:52:26 PM »
have had no luck talking my wife out of it.

Haha that sucks.

I really dont like step ins myself. 
Really unsupportive

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 08:39:30 PM »
ok, switch n style bindings were and still are my dream bindings. i rode a board with them
once, and i loved it. despite everyone else hating it, with the ankle support and high back
being on the boot itself. it does make walking a bastard.
heres the problem...n styles are hard to find. every once and again you can find a pair
but they're usually not comfortable. van's used to have one for the n style, and they were
so comfortable!
if your wife has ridden this board with the n-type and nailed the lock in 1st try, thats probably
the reason she loved them. thats the reason i loved them. it was just like...click click go.

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 01:38:41 PM »
Quote from: travz//
... van's used to have one for the n style, and they were
so comfortable!...

Yes, I remember Vans being the best thing that ever happened to switch.
Good luck man.

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2009, 06:26:13 PM »
haha- ii have no ideas what you guys are talkin about lol

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2009, 08:33:50 PM »
josh -

switch bindings were a controversy back in the mid 90's. they were one of the 1st, if not
THE first company to do step ins, and i believe thats all they had was step ins.

The major flaw for switch was that most of the boots that they had to use were "switch only" style.
meaning the ankle strap was built onto the boot, much like burtons flat plate
step in, but with alot less support. The high back on the "high end" model left much to be desired,
thus alot of people began hating them. They were also notorious for snow clogs (like burtons not
but no one seems to complain about that one) and they broke easy.

Switch did manage to make a jem called the N-Style which was pure simplicity. The downfall on that
binding was you had to now find a boot that came with a highback built into the boot, along with the
ankle straps. Van's made them for a while, but I'm not entirely sure if anyone does now. The
advantage of the N-style vs any other style of step in was the 2 piece click connect, and lock down lever.
And the stainless steel points on both the bindings and the boots made it all but impossible to pop the
binding, a problem thats plagued step ins forever. But alas, it also made walking in the boots a major
disaster. You can loosen the binding strap thats built onto the boot, but then it feels like your feet are
going to come out.

Without a proper binding you're also carrying your board with your hands on the edges, which ironically
are duller than the toe and heel clip on the N-style, those clips that hold the boot down resemble razor
blades. So carrying your board by the bindings, which is something that most of us do, is completely out.

There are still die hard Switch fans out there. I met one last time i rode :) Its a pure love or hate relationship
with that company, but its also just barely kept them afloat. Their binding designs haven't changed much
in the 15 years I've known about them, so it could be said that they're just barely hanging in there to see
what happens. I'm not a die hard fan, but if I could get my hands on a set of new Van's with the N-style
set up, I'd trade my Ride Lx's in a heartbeat. And I think I've stressed enough on how much I like my Ride
bindings. ;)

here is a board with the switch n-style bindings mounted to it


and here is a pic of the bindings alone, and i think these are the 07 models:


and here is a van's boot made for the switch bindings. notice the ankle strap:

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2009, 09:36:13 PM »
lol, Travz brings the history lesson.

I have a set of womens size 6 vans for cheap in case anyone wants to feel nostalgic  :P

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2009, 10:25:49 PM »
pengee i have a set of k2 charm bindings thats been mounted but never ridden in
a womans medium if your wife decides to swap to straps. They're white and very
girlie ahha. If i was a woman and a size 6 id swap for the boots ;)

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2009, 10:46:12 PM »
Well she already got a new set of switch boots, so no need for anything else...... for now, lol. While I'm in love with the idea of switch bindings myself, and I even tried to get a cheap set to play with, I'm still taking bets on how long before she gets tired of them.  :(

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2009, 11:11:10 AM »
Thanks for the history travz.  That sounds pretty cool. 
Ive actually ridden a rental that had a step in system that looks JUST like that with the things on the sides of the boots and everything. 
I dont like step ins from that experience lol. 

This isnt the best place to put it but travz have you ever ridden like a burton binding?  If so how would they compare to you LXs?

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2009, 12:35:26 PM »
josh-
no worries on the history. if you see someone riding those, ask em about them. odds are,
they'll say best bindings they've ever had. The people that didnt like them got rid of them
pretty quick, thats why they're pretty rare. I was honestly shocked when I was pulling up
pictures and info that they're still for sale. haha.

The pad step in you rode for a rental was probably Burton's knock off. Its black, and a circle,
but it's beefier, and the boots are more stable. Thats what alot of the resorts here use for
beginners. But the difference is that the Switch Type-N is all metal, minus the base plate..
which USED to be metal too. I cant tell if the ones in that pic are metal or high polished
black polycarb, but the ones I saw on the mountain were plastic. Who knows now adays.
Its hard to find info on Switch.

I've ridden different types of Burton bindings throughout the years, and I have to say, the
super high end Burton binding beats the Ride Lx, both in stability and quality. But, not
by enough to warrant the $150+ depending on where you shop more than the Ride Lx.
I think Ride also has a level over the Lx, but I haven't been to their site in ages. So I'll
leave it at this, price comparison between the Burton binding at the level and the Ride Lx,
the Ride is a better binding, in my opinion. But if I had to choose freebie, I'd go with the
top of the line Burton binding over any of Rides.

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Re: Switch Bindings.
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2009, 01:59:21 PM »
Ya i was thinkin they were burton or something.
Seems like companys dont really make step inns and more right?

I just looked.  They LX is a realllyyy goood price :D

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