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« on: January 10, 2009, 11:54:58 PM »
hi frosty.

I just started my first snowboard lesson today. It was fun though I must say I spent most of my time down on the snow than riding the board. I guess that is part of learning.

I had a great difficulty getting up with my two feet attached to the board that I mostly had to asked for help with the instructor... I need a huge advise on that one if there is an easier way to do it. I dunno if binding would play an important role on that one as I got a rental with no binding, you know those type of boards that you just step on and you're done. Anyways, I think aside from the fact that i got a board with no binding, my boots were a bit loose on for my liking. I have a size 4 feet and i wore 5 on this particular lesson, which could also play a part for making my lesson of great difficulty. You think it would have make things work for me with a better fitting pair of boots?

Anyhow, I will not stop learning... i would rest for bit though heheheh... i have a sore bum and a sore arm... i love your this website...

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2009, 07:56:06 AM »
Hey softee77,

Welcome to the forums and the world of snowboarding.  Glad to hear you got a lesson.  That is really the way to go.  This might sound weird, but standing up is one of the hardest parts of snowboarding.  Once you get better, you have to do it a lot less, and also as you get more experienced it gets a little easier.  You are right, having boots that are one size too big make things harder.  Once you get your own gear you can dial in things like stance width and binding highback angle which make things easier all around for you.  Here is another nook of encouragement -- it is easier to stand up on steeper hills like blue and black runs than greens.  Stick with it and I am sure you will be rewarded.

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2009, 02:04:54 PM »
Welcome softee!

Like frosty said, getting up is one of the hardest parts to learn, but everyone has their own
way of getting back on their board. The way i do it, is if im on my back, i roll over to my stomach,
and use my knees to stand up. just like it was natural. You can get onto your knees sitting straight
up and plan your direction without being on the board. Then when you're ready, push up, and
turn down the mountain. Its the easiest way to get up from what I've seen. Once you get better,
and start riding faster, you'll figure out how to use your momentum to get right back up in motion
when you fall.

As far as the bindings go, i prefer traditional bindings. Though they're harder to get in and out of
than the step ins that you get as a rental, but to me the offer more support. The resorts use step ins as convenience to make it simpler for people just starting out, cause honestly, if they handed you traditional bindings right out of the gate, alot of people would quit snowboarding (like it was back in the day before good step ins...alot of people got frustraited with strapping in every time the fell and hand to use their feet to get back up).

And the boots, if your boots are a size too big, you run a real risk of getting hurt badly. your foot can come out of the boot, or worse, just getting stuck half way out, and you could shatter your leg or ankle this way. Its not meant to scare you, just to inform you of the dangers of not having the proper equipment. The whole sport is scary enough! A good rule of thumb is, your snowboard boots will be the same size as any boot you wear (if you've ever worn timbs before). They should be tight, yet comfortable, and you should not be able to pull your foot out of it when its laced up no matter what.

Once again, welcome to the site and welcome to the sport!
Dont be embarrassed about falling, everyone does all of the time. And if people laugh when you fall, its either because you had a good wreck (which is funny as long as no one gets hurt) or they're just !@#$ in which they'll get whats comming to them.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask any of us! This site is 100% about help, and there are no dumb questions.

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2009, 09:06:45 PM »
Yup softee practice makes perfect.  One day your gonna have a run where it all just comes to you and your blasting down the mountain.  Well kinda.
Just stick with it.   Its definately worth the falls. 

As for the boots you dont want them to hurt your feet like you dont want your toes curled up.  But you do want them nice and snug.  Maybe you can try on a smaller size and see how that is.

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2009, 11:56:02 PM »
Thanks guys!!! I will definitely try a smaller size boot on my next lesson as I totally felt the effect of inappropriate size this morning... My lower leg is sore when I woke this morning especially the left one as it was the one attached to the board. I remember my foot sliding off the boot while doing the uphill hike.... that was really nasty... painful and I can totally feel the weight of the boot and the board pulling... I'll try going down a size for the board too and see what difference it'll make... i used the board calculator and i got the range of 132-133-134. the only available in the rental was the 134 amongst the three, hopefully next time 132 or  133 would be available. And also, i will surely try rolling on my stomach to get up.. to be honest i don't mind falling while learning as it is part of it, but it just that getting back on the board was really hard for me.. Anyways, no pain no glory. I will keep in my all your advises when i go to my next falling lesson...'er snowboarding lesson, and keep you posted on any developements... Thanks again!!!

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2009, 06:47:59 AM »
Hi!  I just wanted to add that a lot of the soreness that you're feeling is definately normal, whether your boots were too large or not.  When I was first learning to ride there were some days I could barely walk the next day.  My calves and thighs would be so lame...  But don't let that discrourage you.  The more you ride you will build those muscles and that type of soreness will go away... snowboarding is a crazy awesome workout, and way more fun than going to a gym!  Good luck!
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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 11:52:40 AM »
Yup I used to wake up insanely sore lol. 
As you do it more though your body will get more used to it and you get stronger and stuff so you wont be so sore.

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 04:43:38 PM »
yep! 1st time riding and you'll feel like you were hit by a truck...100 times. haha.
2nd time wont be AS bad, but you'll still be in pain. about the..5th or so time
you'll be fine. and its not like that for the 1st ride of every season, the more
you do it, the more the 1st day wont hurt at all. i had no pains from the 1st day
this year..except my accident haha.

and i remember reading somewhere that snowboarding burns like 600 calories
an hour, so its much much better than the gym. i think i got that fact from livestrong.com.
anyone want to double check?

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2009, 07:51:19 PM »
 :D hehehe... thanks you guys... i guess i would have to prepare myself for another set of body aches on the  next lesson eyh... Anyways, I forgot to ask... how will i know that i am using the right foot in to be in front of the board, regular or a goofy???

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2009, 10:48:20 PM »
There is a topic here: http://www.frostyrider.com/boards/index.php/topic,234.0.html which talks a lot about goofy/regular.  Dont worry  TOO much about that though cuz in the end hopefully you will feel comfortable riding either way (switch).  And there isnt a perfect way to figure it out besides just riding. 
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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2009, 11:23:43 PM »
i remember that post. and we all had different ways to figure out right off the bat which way you ride without being on the board lol.

dont let it get to you if you're "goofy" footed, some people like to pick on people that ride that way,
but its all in the name of fun. (im goofy! :D )
ride however you feel natural and have fun! thats what its all about :)

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2009, 01:20:21 AM »
 :lol:  Thanks for your help guys!!! I will surely have fun with my next lesson with your enlightning words in mind...

Oh by the way, I came across this interesting website about snowboard work out if anyone is interested, I just want to share it:

http://www.together.net/~ronjav/sbtp/index.htm


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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 01:02:34 PM »
No prob.
Thats what were here for :)
Yea Ive seen that sight before.  Very informative....

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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2009, 01:40:18 PM »
I too am a snowboarding newbie :D 
I just wanted to mention that I found it almost impossible to "pop" up from the sitting position as well.  I tried the rolling over which worked great, but I found it a little hard to shimmy my way to the edge.  What worked for me was bringing my butt really close to the board and just leaning forward onto my knees then getting up from my knees...
I read someone earlier mentioning getting up from their knees in the beginning too... sooo much easier!!!
I feel like I must not have worked very hard my first time as I really wasn't in that much pain the day after  :(  but man did my shins ever burn during!!!!
Wishing you all a great season!! Im loving all the snow  :D
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Re: snowboarding newbie
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 11:42:17 PM »
 :D hello again frosty!!! I'm back to snowboarding this year since my first lessons last year.  Found out that I'm a goofy. I can now do switch naturally thanks to your tips, but still prefer being a goofy.  I got myself physicallyy prepared too, it made it more easy and more fun :lol: less sore. A proper fitted boot and a well-sized board made a huge difference. And add to that I discovered that when you dig your board a bit makes it easy to stand up as the board does not slide as much. Now i'm planning to buy a setup on Christmas boxing day...hehehe... I need some advice on how to choose a board now and what type of bindings would suit me best.

thanks guys  :D Its going to be a fun season for me....
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